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Very extremely confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't make clear ... my negative In respond to spitfirebill: I included that factor because when I needed to locate a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to find one that wasn't sludged up actually terribly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to talk about a few concerns of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is much better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same automobile.
Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines then. Allow's chat concerning engine and in fact simply to specify that the version years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you know, I suggest, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you recognize, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around since, you recognize, around that time also. We're not going to get back into, right into the earlier things. Since 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are much extra popular and I wouldn't really recommend a V6 engine.
There's a whole lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with blow to these engines, because they didn't have enough threading in the stimulate plug, which caused issues.
So if you're getting anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not mosting likely to have that kind of ignition system concerns. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll develop coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you have to change the whole thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I have to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm chatting concerning problems, it's an extra advanced engine. Expenses camera, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler layout with press poles.
They're simply really quite excellent, long lasting, strong engines. You recognize, being a van, of program, you understand, doing any solution on them is much more complicated due to the fact that you have actually obtained to eliminate that cover and get involved in maintenance in strange means. Things like trigger plugs last a dreadful long time, so they do not require to be changed extremely commonly.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not think about if we have actually ever done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long period of time, like back prior to the 2000 version year.
You recognize, that's still readily available. I would certainly not suggest a diesel unless you're hauling exceptionally hefty lots. Diesels need to be worked. That's truly the lower line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I do not recognize, I'm simply mosting likely to state a plumber and you've got like a lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a really excellent use having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have much less problems in vans than they carry out in the trucks. Most likely due to the fact that they aren't functioned so hard, however when things happen, they're actually expensive to deal with. We have actually obtained a whole lot of videos and info regarding diesels, especially the Fords.
You really need to believe two times regarding getting a diesel in a van. And I will state, Chevy is pretty a lot limited to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is an impressive gas consuming engine.
If you're, and once again, we're just talking about kind of a straight, regular cargo van here. Look at your purpose, your use, just how much weight you're hauling and that'll help you make the choice.
One thing that we haven't spoken about here is what type of van. These vans are, and it relies on what model, they're offered ever from half heap to one lot framework and really several of the exploded view vans are actually a lot more sturdy, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to offer the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's less steering linkage entailed in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the steering linkage is a lot less challenging, so there's less components and much less products to put on out.
The experience in a Ford is probably a bit more vehicle like however I do not know if you 'd actually ever actually discovered a difference between both. It looks like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are practically the exact same, yet I will certainly claim that it appears like with Fords, the method they build their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be replaced almost each time you do a brake task.
For one reason or another, they seem to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be replaced. I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back prior to the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly poor doors. I suggest, the moving doors were crap, you know, truly terribly developed. Actually, I would state that if you are even checking out something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks as a whole really took a leap ahead in quality around the 2000 model year, because there was a great deal of things where the brakes as an example would certainly not last really long at all.
However if we're taking a look at the 2000 newer, I imply, I would certainly state they're both possibly basically matching in quality, fit and surface, you understand, several of the passenger vans, naturally we'll have nicer consultations than the cargo vans. However I can not state that one of them stands apart to me a bit more than the various other.
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